Jeena

Some examples:

• Lemmy: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ansible/blob/main/templates/docker-compose.yml#L81
• Firefox Sync: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs/blob/master/docker-compose.mysql.yaml#L13
• TinyTinyRSS: https://gitlab.tt-rss.org/tt-rss/tt-rss/-/blob/master/docker-compose.yml?ref_type=heads#L10
• Mastodon: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/blob/main/docker-compose.yml#L5
• PeerTube: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/blob/develop/support/docker/production/docker-compose.yml#L71

and many more.

Isn’t my dad the hosting provider? I ordered the hardware, he connected it to his switch and his electricity and pressed the button to start it the first time. From there on I logged in to his VPN and set up the server like I would at Hetzner.

But you’re right it doesn’t really make a difference. I feel the only difference it makes for me where I post my questions on Lemmy if it is in a !selfhosting community or a !linux community.

From a feeling perspective, even if I use Hetzners cloud, I feel I self host my single user PieFed instance (and matrix, my other websites, mastodon, etc.) because I have to preform basically the same steps as for things I’m really hosting at home like open-webui, immich, peertube.

But then you can’t just use the containers provided by the service developers and have to figure out how to redo their container which in the end is more work than just run it manually.

Where is the tipping point though? If I have a server at my parents house, they live in Germany and I in Korea, does my dad host it then because he is paying for the electricity and the access to the internet and makes sure those things work?

I did that first but that always required much more resources than doing it yourself because every docker starts it’s own database and it’s own nginx/apache server in addition to the software itself.

Now I have just one Postgresql database instance running with many users and databases on it. Also just one Nginx which does all the virtual host stuff in one central place. And both the things which I install with apt and manually are set up similarly.

I use one docker setup for firefox-sync but only because doing it manually is not documented and even the docker way I had to research for quite some time.

I wanted to ask where the border of selfhosting is. Do I need to have the storage and computing at home?

Is a cheap VPS on hetzner where I installed python, PieFed and it’s Postgres database but also nginx and letsencrpt manually by mydelf and pointed my domain to it, selfhosting?