Are you allergic to making hard statements? You accused me of mccarthyism, which involves accusing people with little to no evidence. There is evidence of 6,000+ Russian regulars in Ukraine in 2014. That’s not “dissent,” it’s an invasion. I’m not saying there weren’t genuine separatists in those regions, I’m saying it was hardly an organic movement.

So you’re saying it’s all fake?

Mccarthyism is accusing with little or no evidence. There’s piles of evidence of Russian involvement. Hand waving doesn’t make it disappear.

Misrepresenting my stance and refusing to engage with the points isn’t the win you think it is.

Support for eu trade was high enough that yanukovych campaigned on it. Are you saying that’s not true?

Also are you saying contracted Russian soldiers weren’t in luhansk and donetsk in 2014 and onward?

Ukraine population: overwhelmingly supports trade with eu.

You: CIA backed color revolution!

Russian soldiers: taking geotagged selfies in Ukraine by the dozen, revealing overwhelming Russian military involvement in 2014.

You: Nuuu, putin wouwd nevewww 👉👈

Yanukovych. Try to keep up.

thus used deadly violence to suppress any dissent from its Eastern half.

The violence started when the Russian puppet president walked away from an EU trade deal that he literally campaigned on making, then cracked down on the resulting protests. Then an actual Russian created rebellion started. Calling that “suppressing dissent” is disingenuous as fuck.