. The race of a voice actor doesn’t matter

. It is possible to wear yoga pants because there comfy

. You don’t need to shower everyday

. It is possible to crossdress/be gender non-conforming without being trans

. Monty Python is very overrated

    • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
      1111·
      2 days ago

      Inflicting pain and suffering is bad, especially if done for selfish reasons, like pleasure (and tbh if someone were to disagree with that, I’d dont want to talk to them). Exploiting animals is exactly that, taste pleasure to be exact.

      • Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml
        76·
        2 days ago

        classic first worlder with their elevated standard of living:

        • Animal based protein is often cheaper and more easily accessible
        • herbivores as a middle step helps digest frankly indigestible plants

        I am not disagreeing with you there is a fine line between acceptable and gluttonous, but acting holier than though, just cause you insistently chew grass and destroy your gut biome doesn’t help the animals

        • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
          46·
          2 days ago

          Would you be happier with the moral baseline being “Whoever can go vegan, should”?

          BTW. there is only one world :)

        • jsomae@lemmy.ml
          4·
          2 days ago

          It does, because the meat industry is tremendously abusive to animals. Ontop of that it’s a poor use of land and it contributes greatly to global warming. But for sure, the animals feel pain and suffering assuming it is possible for them to do so. Trillions of shrimp die horribly painful deaths every year, but nobody cares because they have a funny-sounding name.

          • anarchaos@lemmy.ml
            12·
            1 day ago

            none of this makes eating meat cause pain or suffering. these are all problems with production, not consumption.

              • anarchaos@lemmy.ml
                11·
                1 day ago

                an event in the future cannot cause an event in the past. eating the meat doesn’t cause it to have been produced.

                • jsomae@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  1 day ago

                  That is true, so the pieces of meat which were placed on earth by god 6k years ago can be eaten guilt-free. However, all other pieces of meat require harvesting from an animal first, incurring the aforementioned downsides. Just as purchasing an item encourages its production, eating meat encourages its purchase.

                  Here are two simple scenarios where eating the meat does indeed cause meat to be produced:

                  • your eating it means that another person doesn’t eat it, so another piece of meat must be purchased for that other person;
                  • your eating the meat signals to whoever got the meat for you (perhaps yourself) that you are willing to eat meat and hence they pick up a propensity to get meat for you again in the future.

                  Isn’t this simple common sense though? Were you really not aware this is how the world works?

                • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.org
                  1·
                  1 day ago

                  I am not interested in discussing meta-physics. For you to eat meat, an animal suffered. That is the point.

            • jsomae@lemmy.ml
              2·
              2 days ago

              Moral baseline is not a necessity. It’s a comparison point. Basically, if you’re not vegan, you should be doing something else to end up net-positive (from a utilitarian point of view). I’m not vegan, I’m vegetarian, so I’m in the negatives I guess.